Here's a true story...
He sent Paul O'Mahony (me) a tweet: "You free to take a call?"
That very minute, I was rushing out - from ChangeAgents business home in Cork city to Midleton East Cork. Hurrying, needing to move fast for a 2pm meeting. I couldn't afford to delay. So I said "Yes - provided you give me 10 minutes to get driving my car..."
Hands free, on Skype, on Apple iPhone4S, with 3G signal from eMobileIreland...
Trust the guy... I had no idea why Chris Brogan wanted me - but I trust him (he's the co-author of Trust Agents with Julien Smith) - he's one of my most trusted agents... Whatever Chris wants to do with my input - whatever project he wants to chat about - that's great with me.
We all have people like Chris Brogan - people for whom we'd walk on water? [Hint: Make a list of your heroes - tell others who they are - honour them - List.ly is perfect for that]
The drive was hairy. Traffic was light but there was the Jack Lynch Tunnel under the River Lee to go through. The Dunkettle Interchange (roundabout) is complex - remember I was in a hurry... the clock was ticking - fast. No time to mince my words...
Question for you? When's the first time you took a Skype call from your hero while driving a car?
The heart of the matter: what was on Chris Brogan's mind? What was bothering him? What was he looking for? That he couldn't get for someone else - from Boston - from all those famous successful people he mixes with?
Was I nervous? You bet I was... but there was no time for nerves... I had to blunder my way through the call, warts & all - both of us had to love the way the audio Skype signal got twisted - not let that distract us. We had to take each other in our stride. [We all have to do that, don't we?]
What happened next? What crashed? The car or the signal?
Click this link to hear the live action - The Human Business Way Podcast... [also, be sure to listen to Mikey Chlanda, firefighter, author of Maples: A History of the Antioch College Fire Department ]
The essence of Chris Brogan... I tell you I could produce an e-book about that car journey - 10 miles - an epic journey. We went into some big issues - stuff that confronts us all [stuff you grapple with all the time - I bet...]
Here's Chris Brogan... [you can find my excited words on the podcast]
"Paul O'Mahony's a friend of mine who has all kinds of facets to him. He started a podcast with his friend Roger Overall called BusinessJazz wherein they do - amongst other things - take a look at my weekly newsletter - and really dig into it & really rip off it ... What I like is because they call it "BusinessJazz" it is ripping & doing generally interesting stuff around some inspiration they get from my newsletter - and sometimes from AJ Leon. It's just a lot of fun, I'm really enjoying it - so go to BusinessJazz.net to check that out."
Chris called them 'Audible Bumps'..."Paul O'Mahony's driving so hopefully we won't crash here... Sometimes we get some weird tech here - we make it work..."
We have talked before "You and I did a video that I destroyed by mistake - we'll do it again - it was about your Canto... forget about that for now..."
"You just launched this audio podcast with Roger Overall called BusinessJazz. What the heck are you thinking? ..."
"Think of this world. I'm sitting here in Boston - which looks like Ireland today given all the weather & the rain - you are just tooling along the road an ... we are building something together right now..that's what you do with 'BusinessJazz."
"Why do you think people don't just do it [tell their story] ? Why don't they take that action and press Record? ..."
"Right now, this very moment, I'm having a conversation with someone who doesn't feel he has a story to tell... and he's about late 40s. How do you get through forty something years of life and not have any kind of a story?"
"How do we coax stories out of people when they're a bit too uncertain how to bring them out?"
"I just saw this video about Christopher Moloney, from Liverpool, 34 years old, lives with his grandmother, thought about joining X-Factor and singing for 5+ years. Finally he get's it out of him - and of course he just blows everyone's mind away...
"What if everyone did it? ...everyone alive... if 7 billion people decided to do it... dared to bust out... tell their story ... what percentage would fall on their head? what do you think? and dare to say it, their real true unbridled unfiltered story... What percentage will fail from that? And what percentage will go in to grow & develop no matter what happens?"
"A service animal for the artist...How do you guide them to their success? That's an interesting role curating that sort of thing.... I wonder how many folks will or will not?"
"What do you think people do wrong in trying to share their story? Where do people fall down a little bit and need your great service...?"
"Ah... the old safe & boring way trick..."
"You & I have that very much in common, amongst many things we share in common, that afforded the opportunity we will ask nearly anyone 'what is that you're doing there?' and try to get beyond what you see directly in front of you."
"I love it. You'are right... Those are exactly the questions in hand...
Chris Brogan's generosity:
"I would like to implore everyone to swing by BusinessJazz.net and see real good work on the go. And I have to really disclaimer one quick thing because, my goodness, people get the wrong idea all the time. It's not interesting because you & Roger Overall review my stuff. It's interesting because you come up with some really interesting conversations based on other writing... and then you just riff off - which is partly why it's BusinessJazz... so swing by BusinessJazz .net
Afterwords Chris continued...One of the really funny thing that happened during this interview ... I just kept thinking 'Holy Cow here I am in Boston talking to this guy on Skype...digital technology... and of course it judders and ... we're in the future, we're in the frigging future
Paul uses Audioboo a lot - which is this program that records really small audiobits & sends them all over - he sent me one & it was stuck on my iTunes. The next audiofile that came up all of a sudden - coming out of my computer - your hear: 'Chris Brogan, you are brilliant'...
Jacq blows out laughing ... thinking I have recorded some sort of affirmation to myself...saying 'Chris Brogan you are brilliant'.... and of course it was my good friend Paul O'Mahony...
A few weeks later...
On Thursday 15 November, the Human Business Way - Chris Brogan's podcast - hit the airwaves. There was big excitement in Cork. That night Roger Overall & Paul O'Mahony went walking dogs. We chatted about what it was like to have BusinessJazz podcast publicised by Chris Brogan.